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Andrew
06-24-2008, 02:30 PM
NASA: Not silent (From OrlandoSentinel.com)

By DOUG COOKE
Deputy Director for NASA Exploration Systems Mission Directorate Washington, D.C.

June 24, 2008

The recent Orlando Sentinel article overtly accuses NASA management of stifling debate of launch-vehicle alternatives to carry out our exploration missions. Nothing could be further from the truth, and NASA's development efforts with the Ares rockets are on track and making progress.

Over my 34 years at NASA, I have seen thousands of concepts with hundreds of launch-vehicle configurations with just as varied combinations of rocket engines, tanks and boosters.

It was exactly for this reason that NASA Administrator Michael Griffin had us conduct the comprehensive Exploration Systems Architecture Study in 2005. We pulled together the best systems engineers from across the country to review all launch vehicle options and how those options mesh with NASA's budget.

The "direct" variation fails to meet NASA's needs on several grounds. It is vastly over-capacity and too costly to service the International Space Station, but worse, its lift capacity would not be enough for NASA to maintain a sustained presence on the moon.

Advocates for the "direct" variation are touting unrealistic development costs and schedules. A fundamental difference is that the Ares I and Orion probability of crew survival is at least two times better than all of the other concepts evaluated, including "direct"-like concepts.

We value an open and robust debate of the technical and programmatic trades, but key decisions on Orion and Ares concepts were made in 2005, and we are making progress with our contractor team developing these designs.

Andrew
06-24-2008, 02:31 PM
The "direct" variation fails to meet NASA's needs on several grounds. It is vastly over-capacity and too costly to service the International Space Station, but worse, its lift capacity would not be enough for NASA to maintain a sustained presence on the moon.

Advocates for the "direct" variation are touting unrealistic development costs and schedules. A fundamental difference is that the Ares I and Orion probability of crew survival is at least two times better than all of the other concepts evaluated, including "direct"-like concepts.

Ross:

What say you with regard to (1) Jupiter lift capacity, (2) service costs for ISS support, and most importantly (3) crew survival?

-Andrew

Rick
06-24-2008, 02:45 PM
Ross has been missing in action the last couple days.

I'm not sure what is going on actually.

JimMcDade
06-24-2008, 04:39 PM
"Unrealistic" is the key word used by Doug Cooke. That's all that needs to be said. This DIRECT scheme may work in daydreams, but it is not a go in reality. Legally, you can't just rollover the Ares contracts into Jupiter-120. If shortening the post-Shuttle gap is a prime justification for going DIRECT, then the whole idea is self-defeating. A new competitive bid process would be required. NASA would have to go back to 2004 and write and RFP all over again.

Andrew
06-24-2008, 06:22 PM
A new competitive bid process would be required. NASA would have to go back to 2004 and write and RFP all over again.

Jim:

EXACTLY! You, in two sentences, have clarified my thinking on this. While Ross maintains that it'll be a snap to re-write these contracts and (1) it'll be done in 6 months and (2) none of the companies will object, I suspect you are closer to the truth than him. It is going to require a 100% re-start of the whole operation and would result in a zero sum gain with delays that would be longer than any related to Constellation.

Better to continue to push for increased budgets for Ares/Orion..there is where Ross has an excellent suggestion: "One Percent For Space." Maybe when they declare DIRECT dead (which won't be until the first Ares launch, unfortunately), he can devote his considerable talents into that effort.

-Andrew

JimMcDade
06-25-2008, 08:47 AM
Andrew you are the legal expert, not me. I am sure you have colleagues who specialize in civil law and contracts. I fought a few wars with our university system about the flawed, corruption-inviting bidding process used in the state of Alabama.

Federal grants and contracts are typically very specific about change-order requests and job-shifting. As I said, those types of changes are not fair to the people who lost on the original bid. An award loser could claim that they are better equipped to efficiently handle the changed specifications than the winner is. Or they might claim that they would have been more aggressive in the bid process if they had known those specification changes were coming.

PS- I did enjoy my tort and business law classes that I took so long ago. Thanks to those classes, I learned how to write the persuasive arguments that got GM to buy back my 2002 Bravada and also got a home materials supplier to remove and replace a faulty flooring installation. I presently have a new issue with another automaker. I hope that we can stay out of court.

JimMcDade
06-27-2008, 08:45 AM
A Direct 2.0 Google news search this morning yielded nothing. It looks as if the Sentinel feature article is not setting any fires in either mainstream or secondary media.

Andrew
06-27-2008, 02:17 PM
Jim:

Yeah, there were some pick ups across the nation, but as predicted it was a flash in the pan.

-Andrew